Tuesday, December 8, 2015

Why laws that stop no fly list members from buying guns are WRONG

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Why are laws that stop no fly list members from buying guns are wrong?


Ok, I hate that I have more to write about here.  I really do.  This issue though is so wrong it makes me feel dirty, and its the exact opposite of what is right and good about this country. This though is a great example of why I started this blog though that I cant let it go past without commenting on it.

First off, Bernie Sanders, I love your campaign and truly hope you win the primary as I think you could do the most long lasting good for this country, as long as you abandon this belief.

Why are these bills so wrong?  Why do they keep me up at night that they might get traction to actually pass?  Well lets take this idea to a slightly different context.  

First lets look at what the idea is, and what it really gets to.

We have a list of names.  Call it a no fly list, call it a terrorist watch list, call it a list of undesirables.  Call it what you will.You want to take this list, and use it to block these individuals from a basic CONSTITUTIONALLY granted right.

Based on what evidence exactly?  What due process?  What precedence?

Lets say this list of undesirables listed all the American followers of the Jewish faith.   We determine them to be undesirable and untrustworthy of firearm ownership.  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_legislation_in_Germany#Disarming_Jews_in_Nazi_Germany)
Yeah that seems like a legacy we want to have.

Or how about we list all Muslim Americans on that list, and lets not go after their 2nd amendment right, but after their 4th amendment rights.  Just barge into their homes and take EVERYTHING.  Hell take the homes too.  Why?  Well if they didn't do anything wrong they wouldn't  be on that list would they?  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Fly_List#Notable_cases)  I mean its not like a few reporters who are in disagreement with a presidential administration could end up there, or a senator...  Or anything like that.

Hell while we are at it, why stop at the 2nd and the 4th?  Lets go for the big dogs.  Lets pull their access to the 5th and 8th amendment rights.  Then we can torture the "Truth" out of them.  I mean lets face it, they HAD to do something wrong, whey else are they on this list.  (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/guantanamo-bay-detainee-case-mistaken-identity-dod-n472616)

Yes, all of these things are the reasons the bill of rights exists.  To guarantee the rights of citizens of the Unite Sates and to protect us from the overreach of our government.  Even if this type of a bill could pass the house and senate, and if the president signed it into law, its a short SHORT matter of time before the ACLU could get it in front of a judge and tear that precedent down as they SHOULD.

Please America, don't react with fear to a threat.  Its not a new threat, and its not a real threat.  Its nothing more than a quick bid by those who feel they should rule "for our own good" to try to take power from us as a proud, strong and united people.

Lastly lets remember that the act of terror we are responding to, wouldn't have been prevented by this legislation, and even if it could have been, it appears the weapons were possibly purchased as a straw man purchase* to begin with (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-bernardino-shooting/san-bernardino-shooters-planned-attack-least-year-advance-n476521)


Be Brave Americans

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" - Ben Franklin



*Straw man purchases have been covered here before (http://common-sense-explained.blogspot.com/2015/10/straw-man-purchases.html)